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I may be shooting myself in the foot here, but I felt like sharing this.
As many of you know, on the 9th of October, it will officially be 4 years since I released Super Mario bros Z episode 8 to the masses. It'll also be almost 19 months since I officially laid SMBZ to rest.
But, with the assistance of a friend, I was able to reacquire Flash and felt like trying out sprite animation again to see if I could re-ignite my passion to work on the series. As practice, I remade the first scene of the first episode of SMBZ. After a few months working on and off, this is the result.
Don't take this as confirmation that I will be working on the series again, but if I did, I would like to remake the series from the ground up. There were numerous things in the older episodes that I felt could have been done better. Namely the fight scenes, the story and the godawful dialogue. Here are some of the key changes I would implement.

1: Mecha Sonic will be replaced by Metallix.
For a supposed upgrade to Metal Sonic, Mecha Sonic was a visual downgrade. The design for Metallix just looks more imposing than the original faceless design. Metallix was going to appear later in the series anyway as Mecha Sonic's perfect form after he got all the Chaos Emeralds.

2: The Pipe maze episode will be removed
The whole episode in general was filler suggested by a fan of the series because I didn't know what to do for the 5th Chaos Emerald. With that said, I feel it was poorly executed on my part. It was too dialogue heavy. It spouted out unnecessary exposition that had no bearing on the plot. And who can forget the ridiculous Deus Ex Machina moment with Kolorado's stopwatch. The 8-bit parts were kinda cool, but to me it couldn't save it from being a bad episode.

3: Captain Basilisx won't be in the remake
While Basilisx was well received by fans, I feel he was shoehorned into the plot. He just showed up out of nowhere with no backstory or buildup. I feel that also distracted from the anticipation of Mecha Mario's appearance and would have undermined the upcoming battle against the Koopalings.

For the time being, these are just ideas. I want to make sure that I would be willing and committed to work on this series again. I don't want to cancel it twice. Until then, enjoy the practice animation.
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dor2bcorse Featured By Owner 10 hours ago
Dude... I'm on ! After what I just saw, I'm sure that Super Mario Bros Z will be entitled to a new life :-3 !
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zecle Featured By Owner 1 day ago   Digital Artist
not sure if i like metallix. mecha sonic was colDer with his robot one eyed face.
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DEMarq Featured By Owner 3 days ago
   A mushroom lost his life that day.....   I love it.
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darkflamesangel Featured By Owner 4 days ago  Student Traditional Artist
you have our full support 
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OzzyBlue Featured By Owner 5 days ago
Holy fuck, I'd love to see you continue this!
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Systalis Featured By Owner 6 days ago
Do you have a Facebook or Twitter page that will keep us updated on the progress? I've been an enormous fan of your work since the very first original episode, and I only just now discovered you're remaking it because I looked you up on a whim for nostalgia's sake. I'm hella excited for anything related to this series and I don't want to miss a moment of it!
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Happy-Potat0 Featured By Owner May 15, 2015  New member
If you're having trouble getting that animating spark you should go to Screwattack honestly. I know they'd love to help out, they even made a video in dedication to this series.
Ofcourse, that's IF you decide to do it after all. :D
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aaronankka Featured By Owner May 14, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I really want Captain Basilisx to be in the series since hes so cool, you could just make an introduction for him and some build up and it would be super awesome.
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xXKaijuFanXx Featured By Owner May 13, 2015  Student Interface Designer
Pls come back. Over 2,000,000 people love this show!
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lcal799 Featured By Owner May 9, 2015
This needs come back, but is the decision of alvin. Anyways i always be a fan of his artworks here on deviantart :)
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wabburio Featured By Owner May 9, 2015
Personally, I don't think you should get rids of Basilsx. He was a great addition however i do agree he was just added in essentially as filler. i think a good idea for him would be to add his introduction in earlier. Maybe as a replacement episode for the pipe episode in which Basilisx is sent out on a test mission to acquire the 5th chaos emerald. the previous 4 episodes could build up towards basilisx then the next 4 to mecha mario.
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Chaos-Infection Featured By Owner May 6, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
I do hope you keep the old versions uploaded on Newgrounds, and I hope the remake will be just as good, if not better. In either case, you are awesome, Alvin-Earthworm.
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Lionwoman Featured By Owner May 6, 2015  Student Traditional Artist
Cool remake, I've not seen nothing related to SMBZ series since the last chapter released. I was surprised to found this link in a youtube video.
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MrButtsavage17 Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2015
NO offence i'm sure you worked hard on this, but I gotta say. I don't like this, if you are planning on doing this again you shouldn't reboot it. if you remember back to when you made the originals i'm sure you put a lot of work into them to, to just disregard them like that. And new mecha sonic's look is so cartoony. he's not even threatening looking in the slightest. If you do plan on doing this again you should just continue the series.
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CouockCubbage Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2015  Student Digital Artist
God it's been a few years since I've even looked into the series, and to see you redid part of the first episode, god it brings back memories.

I know you submitted this about 2 years ago now, and probably aren't planning currently to redo the series, but just seeing after all this time, that it's still somewhat relevant is more than enough for me.
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UmbrotheUmbreon Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
Dear god this is a vast improvement over the original. It is beyond badass. It gives off a great vibe, it flows smoothly, and even looks smoother than it's previous counterpart.

I got into this series extremely late, and had the biggest heart ripping moment ever when I discovered the series was discontinued. While I can understand the reasoning, it didn't make the blow any less painful. I occasionally go back and watch the series (like I just did moments ago) and sometimes hope that by some miracle it'd be continued.

Don't worry, not here to harass or beat it into your head. I only say that if you were to continue this series, whether finishing off the old or remaking it from scratch, you'll have a new supporter and viewer waiting to see what awesomeness you pull out next. Super Mario Bros Z is possibly one of THE best things I've found on the internet, and seeing this masterpiece get finished, would be a dream come true.
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RJKilla86 Featured By Owner Apr 27, 2015
Have you considered kickstarter?

I'm sure that people would pay for the series to be brought back to life. I know I'd pitch in a few bucks. This series has captured the hearts of (literally) millions of viewers. These episodes are very time consuming I can imagine, I have a friend who does flash (who is also a big fan of the series)

Please consider it, and know you've got an entire fanbase behind you for support. SMBZ ftw
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Rukaisho Featured By Owner Apr 29, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That's out of the question. I remember one guy wanted to make an SMBZ movie and started a Kickstarter campaign to raise funds for it, only to be hit with a cease and desist from Nintendo. They won't allow people to make money off their IP's.
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callmesora Featured By Owner Apr 29, 2015
Due to how kickstarter is, it would not be possible. The series could face possible legal actions if it was generating money, atleast directly anyway. The artist does have a patreon account, but that still runs into the legal risk of what I mentioned if he were to offer SMBZ as a reward tier.  So yeah, unfortunately, there isn't all that much that can be done. The only best option I can think of would be merch, such as shirts and what not. It's one of the ways that groups like TeamFourStar have been able to make money off of their abridging work.
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TheShadowHatter Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2015  Student Writer
I miss SMBZ so much, so if there's a possibility that it'll come back I'd be all over it.

With that said...PLEASE! for the love of GOD! see if you can find some extra animators to help you out with it. I honestly believe you'll cancel the series again due to the heavy workload it takes to do the series, especially if you're still set on the 45 episodes with 1 movie like you were in the past. 

If you had a team with you then you could crank the show out faster, and all you'd need to REALLY worry about most is how the story is written and how the other animators animate certain bits, but other then that it'd be solid.

I know I'm way late into this looking at the year, but I still hope you're looking at this every once in a while and thinking..."some day"
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foxkyubiirabbid Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2015
I hope you bring the series back!! you're such an inspiration! :(( love the battle scenes most especially! so creative :((
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Drazilto963 Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2015  Student General Artist
Ep 7 was my favourite actually.
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sparksparklez Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2015
Back when I first discovered SMBZ, it was the only thing I lived for. Watching this clip was great, and I want you to know that you got my full support if you ever decide to bring the series back.
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Vinzan17 Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2015  New member
Hey but the Pipe Maze episode was great, I really liked its ideas, and If you feel like it was justa refill, let´s be honest, every good show has them. It´s just an oppinion but I would still like to see if anyone would like to keep that episode and then what would you think about that.
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UmbrotheUmbreon Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
Pipe Maze was amazing in my eyes. It got me into the whole Minus World glitch in the actual game. When I discovered how to do it, I did it just cause I loved this series for referencing it.
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TheGreatLuigiKnight Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2015  New member
I really hope you do the series again. I LOVED it!
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SuperScratchKat Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
If you decide to do this, you have my full support.
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Squiddw3r Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2015
Hmmmm, I don't think you should remove Basilisx. If I were you, I'd treat him like the ginyu force. When Bowser's main forces can't handle the mario bros, he'd call his secret army, the basilisx force, to take care of them. Just like what Freiza did in order to stop Vegeta.
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SwiftOracle Featured By Owner Apr 12, 2015  Hobbyist Filmographer
This story is based off of the Cell saga.
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sparksparklez Featured By Owner Edited Apr 8, 2015
Didn't he treat the Koopa Bros like that?
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aurakimbozz Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2015
Please keep Mecha Sonic
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CorbenikMercier Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2015
Oh my god...that was****ing awesome! I got chills from that! The feel I got from the angle of Metallix looking down at the Goomba while charging his blast....I got ****ing chills! I seriously hope you continue. 
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StarlightNyx Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2015
Alvin, 

I watched all of Super Mario Bros Z from the moment I found it and eagerly awaited for new episodes. When you laid it to rest, I was a bit heartbroken. Your series was amazing as it was, but I understand that as an artist, you wish to perfect it. I would love nothing more than to see this series come back to life and embrace any and all changes you would make to it! It is a piece of art that I have loved from day one, and nothing can change that. 

I have seen that people have been giving you a difficult time, but I think that you should do exactly what YOU want to do, not what everyone else wants you to do. I understand that you listen to your fans, but don't let them deter you from your breathtaking animations and story line with SMBZ. We support you and understand that life gets in the way. What you have created is amazing, and if you do indeed remake it, I will support you 100%. Personally, I would love for this series to flourish and reach its true conclusion, but only if you WANT to make it. 

You have loyal fans behind you, Alvin.  Keep up your wonderful work. We are all behind you. <3

~Starlight Nyx
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icantpausenow Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2015  New member
Continue your old series.It was great!!
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GoliathDoesFlash66 Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2015  Hobbyist Filmographer
Yay Alvin!!!
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arimibn Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2015  Hobbyist
This makes me want to get back into Sprite Animating again. Haha. But will you continue with your art if you get back into Sprite animation? 
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Davy0 Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2015
Alvin, you're giving yourself too little credit man. The series was awesome. If you feel like you need to remake it just so it fits your grand design again, there's nothing wrong with that. But don't let dubious idiotic fans throw you off your game (if you ever do come back or not, don't let peoples opinions in general throw your game off). Take criticism not blatant harassment over the release of the next episode, do it when you feel is right, and take the initative to relax. You're not getting paid for this, you're doing it because you wish to, not because people are forcing it down your throat. Your series was awesome before, you're just gonna make it more awesome in what you put in if it's remade once more. And if not. It's not because of something you did wrong, it just means that you move on to something better with your time, and there's nothing wrong with that.
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KVENOM Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2015
Rukaiisho is silent, yet the comments are loud!
You know, guys, I hate two things:
1. People who can't make a difference between people with mental conditions and foolish douches(like :icontvngames:)
2. Perverts who think way too much of themselves.(once again, like :icontvngames:)
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ZatchZ Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Yay!
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mwrspeedy23 Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2015
I would love to see this appear again.  I was a huge fan of it, and even though this'll be a remake with parts removed, I would love to see how it'll turn out now!
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DarkDrago22 Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2015
So like.. are you going to remake this or not? It's been about a year and a half since you made this post. An update would be nice, instead of just leaving us eager and hopeful like this. :/
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keydu Featured By Owner Feb 19, 2015
Alvin can open a patreon account or something like that,there is fan games that receives a good amount of money,i think that there are many donators that support smbz,it is just a suggestion.
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Dragon-Tamer795 Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2015
While Sega and Nintendo do allow fan-created content to go largely unharassed, they appear to draw the line at profits being made from their IPs. A kickstarter to create a film of SMBZ was given the c&d treatment soon after it began.

Your best bet at supporting Alvin would probably be to do it directly, under the radar of lawyers. I understand he does commissions - perhaps seeing a couple thousand credits in his bank account will give him the motivation to continue.
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MerrickSimms Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2015  Student Writer
I don't know if Alvin will remake the serie one day, but a new guy wants to finish it apparently.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad6-yN… (His part starts at 6:33)
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supersenic Featured By Owner Edited Feb 14, 2015
what about episode 9 you made the first part but when is the rest of the episode ready? cause weve been wating for more then 5 YEARS!!! does it take that long to make an episode
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ElderxChildx6 Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
He had canceled the series shortly after he had finished part 1 of Episode 9. If you had read the description, you would have learned that he had canceled it.;P It is up in the air on whether he is going to "reboot" the series or not. Hence why he made this flash clip. It gives those who still love the SMBZ series a small hope that maybe one day, he will gain his passion for making the series again and then REBUILD it from the start. We just have to be patient and wait. We can't rush him. It is ultimately his decision if he chooses to do them again, and if he does, he's starting the series over from scratch. There are some fans who feel that some of the things he'd fix shouldn't be, but ultimately it is his decision and we can't stop him.

The reason it's been more than 5 years is because the series was cancelled. Whether it will be continued or not is still up in the air. It is best not to pressure him. We all are fans who love the series and wish that it would continue or even be rebooted the way he envisions, but if he doesn't have the inspiration to continue the series, the series would suffer horribly. I don't know about you, but I don't want the series to go south because of the fact that he lost his inspiration, but continued it anyway to make fans happy. I'd want the series to be as good as it possibly can be. And if that means that it has to be cancelled before it becomes horribly wrong, then it's for the best.

Cherish the episodes that you have gotten to see and can still go back to watch. If he makes more episodes, then be happy that they will be just as good--if not better--than the original because he has taken the time to look back at what he has done and developed ways to make it better. But the key to this is patience. It is hard, sometimes, but it is worth the wait if the series can be better.
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GersonVegito893 Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2015
Exactly /\
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supersenic Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2015
oh my how could have been so blind and stupid *sigh* Alvin-earthworm if you readthis comment then i want to say im sorry for asking you with every other fan of yours when episode 9 came out i promise i will now have all the patience i have and we all hope that one day SMBZ would return
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SgtSigma Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2015
I vehemently disagree with you on Point 2.

You're way too hard on yourself in regards to that episode.  In fact, I'd say the pipe maze episode was one of the best episodes BECAUSE it was dialogue heavy.  It displayed a tremendous amount of intelligence.

Especially that part where Goombella and Kolorado were arguing over who was going to stand in front of who. Very sharp-witted stuff.

And just because certain details don't necessarily fit into the plot doesn't mean they aren't worth anything.  Granted, nobody really needed to know about the attempted genocide against the Koopas at the hands of the Mushroom Royal family, but it added more to the mythos of SMBZ.  And it served to make the place all the more sinister and foreboding.  Not to mention shedding light on the fact that Peach's family has not always been historically innocent of bloodshed and of racism as it appears today.  It added a dark undercurrent to Peach's family history by elucidating the Royal Family's potential for wickedness and cruelty.

Would the story have proceeded with clarity and coherence without that part?  Yes.  But something would've been missing nonetheless.

Also, I will agree with you about the stopwatch.  It would've been more believable had Kolorado came up with idea somehow on his own as a result of an adrenaline-fueld epiphany of sorts, instead of Luigi simply stumbling onto the solution by breaking the watch.  The fact that he knew the watch came from SubCon would've planted the seed, a seed which would sprout as he and Goombella are hiding from the battle.

Maybe Goombella would point out how Kolorado has been holding onto his father's stopwatch a lot more than usual since they had arrived.  Kolorado will point out that he always felt a strange comfort from holding on to that watch, much like his grandfather.  It's not just the sentimental value, it's simply the nature of the object.  

It's been said all objects and artifacts, even the tiniest of trinkets and souvenirs, from the land of SubCon have a history of having a mysterious, fascinating hold over people.  For better or for worse. 

At any rate, it's been that way with him since he was a child but he also has to admit that being in the Minus World has made him feel alot more compelled to hold onto it, like holding onto a life raft after falling overboard during a storm.

They blah-blah blah some theories and ideas and eventually deduce that the watch may have the potential to dispel the energy of this evil place after Kolorado remembers studying another artifact from SubCon with the Professor, during which the Professor noticed that the artifact had an energy signal like nothing he had ever seen before.  An energy which seemed to resist and repel all other forms of energy around it.  Most particularly energy of an evil, mystical origin.

At some point, Kolorado comes to the heartbreaking conclusion he's going to have to break the stopwatch irreperably after tripping and falling, causing a small crack in the watch to appear and, for a brief moment, the Minus World is reverted to normal for a full ten seconds or so.  He and Goombella deduce that if such a tiny crack was enough to dispel the energy for only ten seconds, then it means the watch is is going to have to be broken entirely if they want a real chance for everyone (preferably sans Mecha Sonic) to escape.

They break the watch.  The Professor comes through on the radio, Goombella hastily explains the situation as Kolorado picks up whatever pieces of the watch he can gather.  The battling heroes and their vicious opponent pause their battle, befuddled by this second, albeit significantly lengthier return to normality and then make a mad dash for the exit, the good guys scooping up Goombella and Kolorado along the way with Mecha Sonic not far behind right before the Minus World becomes flooded with its own evil energy once more.
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RepiteoHD Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2015
If anything came of this, it's proof that, even after all these years, SMBZ is still very, very fresh on the minds of many.

While I deep down hope you regain your passion someday, ultimately, you should do what is best for you.

(Though, for however little it's worth, I do disagree with the notion of replacing Mecha Sonic with Metallix. He's such an iconic character for the series, and to drop him entirely just seems... I dunno, off? Might just be me, I dunno.)
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